Posts by Mad Irishman

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Governing Body Discontinues the New World Translation as 'OLD Light'???

by Ruby 1976 in

i just saw this posted on a facebook group.

anyone know if there is any truth to this?.

http://www.exjehovahswitness.com/gb-discontinues-new-world-translation-as-old-light.html.

after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

midnight..

Mad Irishman

I'm rather stunned by the insensitive and cruelness of some of the posts. Sometimes men build too many walls and not enough bridges.

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Watchtower Annulled My Baptism

by RICHT in

contrary to popular belief you can have your baptism annulled as i did by my local elders after my judicial hearing.. the watchtower of 1964 page 126 first paragraph clearly states that anyone that was committing a gross sin before, during and after their baptism is void.

in order to get right with the lord you would need to be re-baptised.

err no thanks, i'm not a believer!!!!.

Mad Irishman

What happened to you is very rare and does not happen often.

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Data for Partakers from 1935-2016. Latest number wasn´t this high since 1954!

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i gathered the data for the memorial partakers every year since 1935 (the first year they had data) until now.. the latest figures haven't been that high since 1954!.

this stat looks very bad in watchtower land because the decreasing # of partakers was given, for decades, as proof that the end was near!.

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Mad Irishman

There is obviously a higher case of mental illness going on now. Most new partakers that I knew were literally, and I'm not making light of this, mentally ill. It was rare to meet a new partaker who wasn't mentally ill. You have to feel bad for them.

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Not a sympathizer

by Richard Oliver in

i think everyone here is under the impression that i am a watchtower sympathizer, i am not.

i just like facts and when people say things, which are their opinions but that facts point out as not being true, than that is when i get so motivated to make a comment.

i have read posts here, listened to six screens and read jwsurvey and seen things that people say, which are opinion, but pass them off as fact.. there are legitimate things that people on here and former jws have concerns over without manipulating what is said or trying to pass off opinion as a fact.

Mad Irishman

Richard,

Some people on here have such hatred built up in their heart they cannot see the forest for the trees. Try to rationalize something or disagree with them (like each of us can't have our own opinion or believe something slightly different) and they start to act just like the so-called crazy, evil witnesses that they say were so controlling and who ruined their life. To then come on here, or any ex-witness forum for that matter, and act like everything has to be only one way is rather strange and hypocritical.

If you don't believe that JW's are Nazi Germany in disguise then you will be beat senseless with hatred by people who are supposed to be on your own side; and no evidence, stats, or reasoning will do even if it is 100% percent verifiable.

We live in a new age where people just go around trying to affirm what they already believe whether it is right or wrong or downright crazy; and anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy and "bad."

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Some apostates are coming across as crazed psychopaths

by jambon1 in

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i'm not sure whether or not my view on this is correct so please leave your input.

in recent months i've been viewing youtube videos.

again, it might just be my view but there has been an increased amount of random people grabbing a camera and doing vlogs.

Mad Irishman

There are crazy witnesses and good witnesses and everything in between. That in turn means there will be crazy ex-witnesses, good ex-witnesses, and everything in between.

This is how it usually works for any group of people. And unfortunately no one can control anyone else; and most people don't listen to reason now-a-days so there are always going to be aggressive people who make themselves look like idiots.

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To "A Believer" and other JW's that lurk or participate.

by goingthruthemotions in

you think that coming to this site or other anti-jw sites and showing you support for the org is noble.

knowing how brainwashed you are makes me cringe and disgustes me and i am sure others here on the forum.

becasue your in a cult and can't see it.

Mad Irishman

I only see someone come on here once in a while and post something in retort. Is this really a big problem here on this forum?

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Is strong faith or belief in religion or "God" a mental disorder?

by kpop in

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it is a most interesting study.

when one studies anthropology, one can see how the "need" for belief in a higher being evolved from early man.

and it served a purpose.

Mad Irishman

Karl Marx said that "religion is the opium of the masses," and Vladimir Putin, who is no genius, just worships anything Marx has to say. Putin has taken most rights and freedoms away from Russians, so I wouldn't work myself up into a lather to praise the guy. The second he gets the chance to take away your freedoms he will.

Saying someone who believes in a religion must have a mental disorder is no different than those same people who are religious saying that someone who doesn't have a religion has a mental disorder. It's an easy way out that takes no thought into consideration; and it is really cowardly when someone tries to denigrate something they loath by insulting it instead of trying to understand the complicated mechanisms that make up all of humanity.

Just because we may think something is so doesn't make it right.

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And the jackals move in

by stillin in

a woman whom i knew as a teenager stayed over at another witness family's home.

the brother who was the father was caught peeking at her while she was taking a shower.

she told the elders, a jc was held, the brother was repentant and had loss of privileges for a year.

Mad Irishman

I'm not sure what she could sue the WT for. Where were they negligent in this?

Sounds like sharks circling in the water.

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"back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

by purrpurr in

a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

their response was quite amazing.

they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

Mad Irishman

It is true that 30, 40, and 50 years ago that child abuse was never talked about, people thought children were potentially lying, and that it wasn't the issue that is it nowadays. Western society has come a long way about child abuse the last 50 years, because it used to be hush-hush, it was never brought to the authorities, and it was something taboo and shameful; and even when kids came forward their parents would never go to the police. I have non-JW's relatives who were abused by parents and priests 40 years ago and none of them went to the police. It was considered shameful for the family to even let it be known that it happened. That's just the way society was. I think we often forget this. Nobody was talking about child abuse 30 and 40 years ago. Not like now.